honda0105
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 2:53:58 AM
streetcars: I have not seen anyone in upper offices in DC who wouldn't fit the "bunch of college educated idiots running this country trying to keep their rich buddies rich, and happy, to contribute too their campaign funds."
When the masses fail to take part in the political process more than every election, that's what happens. We have given our rights to those who have disconnected w/ the needs and wishes of the common little man, and the country is run by rich guys, some much richer than others.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 2:51:28 AM
EtOH never has been the answer. It's the corn and EtOH lobby that's been pushing this and stuffing the Beltway pockets big times.
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LanguageMan1
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Tampa
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2012 4:50:25 AM
Respect for the office? For what reason do they even deserve respect for how and what they do against us, whether they're Democrat or Republican? Doesn't matter if it was Clinton, Bush or Obama, Gingrich, Pelosi or Boehner, they all suck and they screw us over to benefit the wealthy at our expense. They don't deserve respect, nor praise, etc.
I don't agree with 10k entirely mind you, as I don't find that they're not qualified, they just work for those at the top, the ultra wealthy, and themselves and their friends, then lie to us. Even some Democrats lied to help us get into the war against Iraq and Saddam, and the lies have continued and have gotten worse.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 11:09:02 PM
10k from North Carolina...
May I remind you that the President's name is OBAMA without the bizarre embellishment. You needn't agree with him, in fact that you don't, could make this thread more interesting.
However, as a citizen, you owe the office respect. Just the basic stuff you learned at home and teach your children now. Schoolyard puns belong in the schoolyard.
[Edited by: ziyulu at 8/12/2012 2:09:55 AM EST]
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C.Carpets
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:36:29 PM
Getting rid of Ethanol will give us all better mileage. Which would mean we would all pay less gas tax. Which is why Gov. rather stay with Ethanol.
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RambleOn
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:29:53 PM
And this is why our founding fathers advised to have NO ALLIANCES because other countries (therefore the UN included) are not bound by our constitution and its fullest promotion of freedom and fairness to all. Now it's hard enough to even get our own representatives to pay attention to our constitution.
[Edited by: RambleOn at 8/12/2012 1:30:47 AM EST]
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10k
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:27:04 PM
get rid of ethanol, and dear ol' lisa jackson and her EPA now !!..
are y'all sheeple happy yet ??..lemme get on my soapbox for a second: "WHY IN THE H*LL IS THE UNITED NATIONS STICKING THEIR NOSE IN THE UNITED STATES BUSINESS ??-DID KING NOBAMA BRING THEM IN ??..IF THIS TERRORIST IS NOT KICKED OUT IN NOVEMBER, THERE WILL BE NO UNITED STATES FOR A 2016 ELECTION"..
okies, i'm off the soapbox now..what the heck does nobama have to review ??..is he waiting for more destruction on our economy ??..he obviously is not qualified for the job, and obviously the sheeple are not qualified to vote..is nobama sweet-talking the 18 year olds again ??-all the more reason the voting age needs to be changed back to 21-and the united nations need to find a building in another country..
diplomatic immunity indeed..
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streetcars
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:17:26 PM
This is what you get with a bunch of college educated idiots running this country trying to keep their rich buddies rich, and happy, to contribute too their campaign funds.
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TXryder
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Texas
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:15:40 PM
The pres is a goofus on this one. Should have repealed the Bush mandates when he took office. Not wait until a disaster occurs. What he is trying to decide is which decision gains the most voter support.
Get rid of ethanol! Its efficiency rate does not come close to matching real petro. North America has a glut of crude. Build more petro refineries. Ethanol process is very damaging to the economy.
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fxb1
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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:15:32 PM
ok
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Dodge_Me
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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:13:59 PM
Not a big fan of the Obama administration but I'll give them a high five for this
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abk
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:13:18 PM
There should only be rules against inferior products.
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kgbellman
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:12:21 PM
I think it's a good idea to evaluate
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hubcapLA
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:11:49 PM
Good work EPA, now don't go around eating corn! Get rid of ethanol and do at least one thing right!
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probedude2
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Akron
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:11:03 PM
Ethanol from corn is just stupid, even in concept
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ggordo
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:07:49 PM
Stop ETHANOL forever and get rid of it, the multi-multi-billion engine-carburetor destroyer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Chiron
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Tucson
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:06:55 PM
Corn is food not automobile fuel, especially when people are starving.
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TIGERPAW46
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Florida
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:06:28 PM
The UN needs to call on So. America & Africa to reduce land for sugar cane etc used solely for Ethanol. worse than the USA. NOT THAT I WANT ANY ETHANOL. However those are the countries cutting down all the rainforest for ethanol crops & worsening pollution as a result.
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Zonk
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Michigan
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:06:02 PM
Not really UN's business.
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RENEGADEGAS
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:04:58 PM
Another shining example as to why the EPA MUST be abolished!
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TFowler513
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Memphis
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:04:21 PM
The UN should have no say in what an individual in this country does!!!
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Ron77095
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Houston
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:03:09 PM
Really?
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DrLyon
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Michigan
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:02:52 PM
Glad to see review of policy...
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TFowler513
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Memphis
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:01:21 PM
The UN should have no say in what an individual in this country does!!!
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joel27nc
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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:59:28 PM
Corn for food again, not fuel?
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PetroScopper
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Houston
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:58:55 PM
I think this is a great idea! It can only benefit the American consumer.
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nightworker998
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Maryland
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:57:54 PM
Screw the UN and the ethanol industry and make the ethanol producers buy on the open market
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Rooster922
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:56:47 PM
Just do it.
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mfeldstein
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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:56:34 PM
Ban ethanol.
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gasmack
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Ventura
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:54:56 PM
Let's do whats necessary to solve the problem.
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stopforgas
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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:53:47 PM
Get rid of that crap!
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jkpsr
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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:51:40 PM
Ethanol is an evil motor fuel. Unless you can make it from sugar cane, like Brazil, you are chasing your tail.
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stratlinetime
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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:47:57 PM
Ok
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lillybeth2010
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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:46:55 PM
They will review this to death till after the election
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12766
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New York
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:45:49 PM
OK
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Jeff1944
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South Dakota
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:45:43 PM
All talk for show. We all know based on his practice, that the supreme being he is that the Osama Obama will proclaim another executive order to make it happen, IF he wants to!
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GallowayGuy
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Columbus
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:45:02 PM
We are under pressure from the U N ????? What a joke
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pastorpaulcg
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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:44:39 PM
UN is worthless
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rahcat
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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:43:47 PM
The US should get out of that worthless organization....The United Nations.
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Blue48
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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:43:19 PM
JUST KILL ETHANOL NOW!
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jetskijerry
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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:40:42 PM
Get rid of the crap!
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TBONE3
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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:38:49 PM
They do not have the guts to do something as simple and good for the consumer of food and fuel! Hope they prove me wrong!!
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rxman1
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Toledo
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:38:03 PM
They will float a trial balloon submit it to a committee and study it to death. After the problem is over then make a decision
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CAroadrunner101
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California
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:37:43 PM
whatever...
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srchr
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San Jose
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:36:02 PM
pure politix; not a chance they'll cut the ethanol mandate before the election
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BobD2009
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:35:22 PM
Abolish ethanol.
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Glock26
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Dayton
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:34:43 PM
Ban Ethanol!!!
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n3tbc
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:34:39 PM
Ok
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ShadowACE
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Boston
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:34:24 PM
Wow! There's a really strange coincidence. Imagine the U.N. actually suggesting something that would be GOOD for the U.S. of A.!! I certainly didn't see that one coming.
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crreed1
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 9:32:50 PM
get rid of ethanol
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