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Heed the lessons of hurricanes past

GasBuddy Blog -- As tropical storm Isaac approaches Florida, its' timing is all too similar to Hurricane's Gustav and Ike, two storms that unexpectedly delivered extensive damage to the entire southeastern U.S. in late August and early September of another election year, 2008.

The two hurricanes pummeled much of the nation's oil refining infrastructure delivering widespread power losses throughout the southeast triggering gasoline price spikes and consumer anger. In Atlanta, for instance, by mid-September of 2008, that city saw the highest fuel prices ever recorded when regular gasoline spiked from $3.45 (pre-hurricanes) to an average of $4.30.

Damage from Ike was estimated at $37.6 billion making it the second most destructive U.S...

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Submitted Aug 25, 2012 By: PD

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,650 Points:1,612,445 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 5:27:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse My heart goes out to all in Isaac's path.
1COR1533 Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,706 Points:318,210 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 8:27:20 PM Ignore 1COR1533 Report Abuse ok
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,650 Points:1,612,445 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 3:07:40 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse the main issue w/ the more recent hurricanes / TSs is their sheer size. Ever noticed how they've gotten bigger and bigger? It seems that in the past decade or two, the storms have grown to cover multiple states all at once, which, as Isaac has shown, can cause serious damage by sheer size / water uptake alone.
1COR1533 Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,706 Points:318,210 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2012 6:31:35 PM Ignore 1COR1533 Report Abuse nice
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,650 Points:1,612,445 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2012 3:06:02 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Seems like we're going through an August 2008 repeat... prices have spiked, except, thankfully, diesel isn't at $5 (just yet, but I won't hold my breath).
Gma02 Rookie Author Fort Wayne Posts:31 Points:8,930 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 1:27:08 AM Ignore Gma02 Report Abuse I wish they only raised gas prices 5 cents; here it went up 30 cents.
nogoatz Rookie Author Ohio Posts:31 Points:9,310 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 6:30:09 AM Ignore nogoatz Report Abuse I need a full tank of fuel for my big get a way when Big Brother comes to collect my guns!
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:14,749 Points:2,095,780 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 6:56:46 PM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse The lessons of hurricanes past is, that damage is a function of storm-strength. Literally dozens of Tropical Storms and hurricanes have both transited "the Oil patch" will little damage, with little impact. But time after time, its the 'post-hurricane effects' that have their biggest impact. Take 2005 - that very same year, just 7 weeks prior to Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Cindy came ashore just west of where Katrina eventually would, crossing over New Orleans with litle fanfare: Hurricane Cindy (03-07 Jul 05) And in 2008, Tropical Storm Edouard came ashore near where Hurrricane Gustav would 5 weeks later, also without significant damage. Tropical Storm Edouard (03-07 Jul 05) Given the total number of oil & gas platforms, and coastal concentration of refineries, any Major Hurricane that makes landfall west of Mobile Alabama has the potential to cause damage. And while all hurricanes leave behind some destruction in their wake, its just the really big ones, get our attention with one exception. So what is it that we have repeatedly failed to heed from the past? (I guess you should have read the article..., ESPECIALLY - DougtheEconMan) .
retired23 Sophomore Author Oakland Posts:237 Points:150,405 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 5:52:32 PM Ignore retired23 Report Abuse It's just human nature to panic........
garywa01 Sophomore Author Alberta Posts:130 Points:382,165 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 2:54:56 PM Ignore garywa01 Report Abuse The worst we get in Alberta is the odd tornado.
dynamouse Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,527 Points:1,753,750 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 12:02:53 PM Ignore dynamouse Report Abuse ok
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DougtheEconMan Champion Author Akron Posts:1,903 Points:268,690 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:44:53 AM Ignore DougtheEconMan Report Abuse KEEP YOUR GAS TANKS (and gas-cans) FULL!... I've been posting this for almost four weeks. The "pundits" have misjudged or totally missed the supply/demand situation of gasoline. We've had no fewer than six refineries that have gone down with emergency repairs in the last month. A pipeline went down in this time. High or HIGHER prices are probable for the next 4-6weeks! In addition to these current production problems, we have a possible storm disruption. Maybe bigger, the Federal Reserve will be announcing that they are ready to do whatever it takes to keep the economy from recession.* This will put immediate pressure on the Dollar which increases oil prices. Be smart! Stay full! *Fed Chairman speaks this Friday in Jackson Hole, Wy, addressing the Fed Reserve Conference. All financial markets worldwide will be watching. Dollar/energy markets may be directly affected
Tomeboy Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,789 Points:563,215 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:36:58 AM Ignore Tomeboy Report Abuse The National GasBuddy Oil and Gasoline Forecast Service has issued a HURRICANE WARNING!! Hurricane Isaac is expected to create a "SPECULATOR STORM SURGE" in the coming days... triggering oil and gasoline price spikes. "Speculator Fears" will panic consumers and actually help cause fuel shortages in and around the storm damaged areas. Consumers may feel insecure and create a stampede to the gas stations and convenience stores. Consumer anger is also forecast to follow the "Speculator Storm Surge." GasBuddy Reporter PD in a plea to "Speculators" said; "If you do that (drive up oil and gasoline prices), you're helping to disrupt the conventional shipment schedule of the retailers and their distributors and, in turn, you'll be contributing directly to even greater retail fuel price spikes". "Speculators... Don't become part of the problem" So if you hear that the local gas station just raised prices by 5 cents a gallon, that doesn't mean you have to go into panic mode and go buy gas you don't need. Relax and remember it's the "Speculators" that are helping drive the prices up. Don't lose your head like "Speculators" do. Stay calm and that will help keep any local or regional fuel supply problems to a minimum, instead of turning a little problem into a much bigger one that "Speculators" are known to do. (Note: I don't think Hurricane damage can be considered a little problem as PD put it). Be Prepared... Be Safe... God Bless You... You are in our Prayers...
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,970 Points:835,630 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:32:06 AM Ignore regout Report Abuse Another reason to increase oil.
DougtheEconMan Champion Author Akron Posts:1,903 Points:268,690 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:29:13 AM Ignore DougtheEconMan Report Abuse KEEP YOUR GAS TANKS (and gas-cans) FULL!... I've been posting this for almost four weeks. The "pundits" have misjudged or totally missed the supply/demand situation of gasoline. We've had no fewer than six refineries that have gone down with emergency repairs in the last month. A pipeline went down in this time. High or HIGHER prices are probable for the next 4-6weeks! In addition to these current production problems, we have a possible storm disruption. Maybe bigger, the Federal Reserve will be announcing that they are ready to do whatever it takes to keep the economy from recession.* This will put immediate pressure on the Dollar which increases oil prices. Be smart! Stay full! *Fed Chairman speaks this Friday in Jackson Hole, Wy, addressing the Fed Reserve Conference. All financial markets worldwide will be watching. Dollar/energy markets may be directly affected
fire@53 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:11,848 Points:2,772,225 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:29:07 AM Ignore fire@53 Report Abuse Learning from the past is the best teacher.
robaloma Champion Author Houston Posts:2,616 Points:694,550 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:26:38 AM Ignore robaloma Report Abuse ok
manbig13 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,431 Points:557,475 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:23:50 AM Ignore manbig13 Report Abuse yeah, tell this to L
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jpgilmor Champion Author Houston Posts:2,180 Points:607,725 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:19:04 AM Ignore jpgilmor Report Abuse Prepare and take shelter when necessary.
TRAIN RIDER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:9,097 Points:2,760,745 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:18:20 AM Ignore TRAIN RIDER Report Abuse How many days are they going to post this?
nauzad Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:1,029 Points:287,630 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:17:04 AM Ignore nauzad Report Abuse True. Stay calm.
SpankyMI Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,728 Points:763,180 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:14:35 AM Ignore SpankyMI Report Abuse There will "NOT" be the same kind of media coverage this time, watch and see.
DougtheEconMan Champion Author Akron Posts:1,903 Points:268,690 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:13:22 AM Ignore DougtheEconMan Report Abuse KEEP YOUR GAS TANKS (and gas-cans) FULL!... I've been posting this for almost four weeks. The "pundits" have misjudged or totally missed the supply/demand situation of gasoline. We've had no fewer than six refineries that have gone down with emergency repairs in the last month. A pipeline went down in this time. High or HIGHER prices are probable for the next 4-6weeks! In addition to these current production problems, we have a possible storm disruption. Maybe bigger, the Federal Reserve will be announcing that they are ready to do whatever it takes to keep the economy from recession.* This will put immediate pressure on the Dollar which increases oil prices. Be smart! Stay full! *Fed Chairman speaks this Friday in Jackson Hole, Wy, addressing the Fed Reserve Conference. All financial markets worldwide will be watching. Dollar/energy markets may be directly affected
1Casey Champion Author Albany Posts:6,543 Points:1,793,910 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:13:14 AM Ignore 1Casey Report Abuse Br prepared.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,090 Points:2,348,435 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:12:59 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Maybe, Maybe Not! You never know exactly where these hurricanes will go And what damage they will cause until it's been there and done that. If you've been in the 'hurricane zone' for any length of time, you know what to do. Extra supplies, fuel stocked up and ready to go if necessary. The Ghost of Hurricanes Past? It's Not good to Mess with Mother Nature! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
Red7002011 Champion Author Mississippi Posts:3,347 Points:671,645 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:11:58 AM Ignore Red7002011 Report Abuse Really!
smoketown Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:6,247 Points:1,384,800 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:11:34 AM Ignore smoketown Report Abuse As always........
capt455 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,423 Points:817,335 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:10:41 AM Ignore capt455 Report Abuse After Ike, we had nearly zero gasoline for a week here in Western NC. Huge lines when a station did get a rare delivery. We have one vehicle that runs on biodiesel, so no worries for us.
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driveonby1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,507 Points:256,665 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:09:13 AM Ignore driveonby1 Report Abuse Time to stick our heads in the sand, before we're forced to do so. Right, Obama?
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misuds Veteran Author New Haven Posts:422 Points:510,160 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:06:53 AM Ignore misuds Report Abuse Remember if you mess with mother nature you will lose.Stupid does hurt !
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LuckyD43 Champion Author Long Island Posts:32,100 Points:2,170,995 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:05:10 AM Ignore LuckyD43 Report Abuse Enough with the stormaggedon. We got the message already. No need to print the article more than once.
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LostAgain2009 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:2,398 Points:711,685 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 11:01:10 AM Ignore LostAgain2009 Report Abuse Maybe it will at least kick some moisture up to the Midwest
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NGEFE Veteran Author Provo Posts:339 Points:469,975 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 10:51:53 AM Ignore NGEFE Report Abuse I think the oil rigs don't want to lose any more than they have to!
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